Is there a word left out there, or not? Is there a "that" between "object" and "is," or not? Because otherwise I can't actually parse this sentence, though perhaps it would make more sense in-context.
No but that's the best way to parse it out of context.
I've never heard of Irigaray. Thoughts on where to start reading?
I've only read secondary sources here, sorry.
Forgive me, but WTF does "a fundamental cut across all things" mean? Is it cut in the sense of mental dissection, getting deeper into the heart of the self through interrogating everything? How is one supposed to perform this cut?
The cut of the umbilical cord? The use of language as prosthesis for understanding the world? Umm... I really only sort of get this part. It's a psychoanalytic thing.
Ok, so. But does it somehow...sully those Platonic ideals, sully the queering of the theory, when they're brought into the real world to be enacted, by men in drag or whomever? (If so, then does that make platonic ideals that cannot yet be enacted in the real world, like phantom wing syndrome, more queer as ideas than, say, gender theory?)
Deleuze and Colebrook don't think so --- it's not about sullying, it's just about the enactment in reality of those Ideals as being not the totality of those ideals. Enacting something doesn't sully it, it just isn't it? If that makes sense? However the idea of phantom wings being more queer than queer theory is fascinating.
Also, holy shit. Are all these people you cited here just things you downed in your spare time while no one noticed?
Hardly. :) I mean the Barthes and the Sedgwick were spare time reading but everything else I mentioned was for some class or another, and I was introduced to Sedgwick by a class, I just read extra stuff I wasn't required to. I haven't actually read much Deleuze/Guattari at all --- this class is covering them in a five-hour mega-epic week 5, and so I have not tried to catch up on the theory that I am busy enough anyway and the professor put them in that order for a reason even though it doesn't make sense to me.
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Is there a word left out there, or not? Is there a "that" between "object" and "is," or not? Because otherwise I can't actually parse this sentence, though perhaps it would make more sense in-context.
No but that's the best way to parse it out of context.
I've never heard of Irigaray. Thoughts on where to start reading?
I've only read secondary sources here, sorry.
Forgive me, but WTF does "a fundamental cut across all things" mean? Is it cut in the sense of mental dissection, getting deeper into the heart of the self through interrogating everything? How is one supposed to perform this cut?
The cut of the umbilical cord? The use of language as prosthesis for understanding the world? Umm... I really only sort of get this part. It's a psychoanalytic thing.
Ok, so. But does it somehow...sully those Platonic ideals, sully the queering of the theory, when they're brought into the real world to be enacted, by men in drag or whomever? (If so, then does that make platonic ideals that cannot yet be enacted in the real world, like phantom wing syndrome, more queer as ideas than, say, gender theory?)
Deleuze and Colebrook don't think so --- it's not about sullying, it's just about the enactment in reality of those Ideals as being not the totality of those ideals. Enacting something doesn't sully it, it just isn't it? If that makes sense? However the idea of phantom wings being more queer than queer theory is fascinating.
Also, holy shit. Are all these people you cited here just things you downed in your spare time while no one noticed?
Hardly. :) I mean the Barthes and the Sedgwick were spare time reading but everything else I mentioned was for some class or another, and I was introduced to Sedgwick by a class, I just read extra stuff I wasn't required to. I haven't actually read much Deleuze/Guattari at all --- this class is covering them in a five-hour mega-epic week 5, and so I have not tried to catch up on the theory that I am busy enough anyway and the professor put them in that order for a reason even though it doesn't make sense to me.