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I got my grades back for the semester. Out of three classes, I got two As.
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and an A+.
Now to a certain extent, when you are in graduate school, anything less than an A means you sort of screwed up. An A- means "you could have done better, but that was OK," a B+ means "this was kinda borderline, really," a B means "you need to get better at this material," and anything lower means "you should consider leaving graduate school." This depends on your program, of course, but most funded positions require you keep your GPA around a 3.5 (a couple I've heard of are as low as a 3, but I've also seen positions that required a 3.85 just to keep funding) and so this matters. Still, getting As means I did not screw up, and the A+? Well, that apparently reflects better than just not screwing up.
This matters a lot to me because I screwed up my undergrad so hard. I only managed to get my final GPA to like a 3.2 because my senior year I took thirteen classes in two semesters and averaged a 3.8 in them. (I'm converting to a 4.0 scale for convenience here; my undergrad had a 5.0 scale.) Other than that year, where I worked like a crazy person, my undergrad work was atrocious, and that combined with some other things has sometimes made me feel like a giant flake academically. This year marks four full years of graduate school --- three years in my MA program, and one year toward the PhD --- all of them while working full-time for a tech company. In all four of those years, I have never gotten a grade that was not an A, except for this A+; I feel like I have karmically purged my four years of undergrad. I did all of the work, I went to all of my classes, I took my education seriously, I feel like I genuinely understand a whole lot more as a result of this work even though I still have a long way to go. It feels really good. I am not a fuckup.
Now all I have to do is... around five more years of school, and then I'll have a PhD! yay
...
and an A+.
Now to a certain extent, when you are in graduate school, anything less than an A means you sort of screwed up. An A- means "you could have done better, but that was OK," a B+ means "this was kinda borderline, really," a B means "you need to get better at this material," and anything lower means "you should consider leaving graduate school." This depends on your program, of course, but most funded positions require you keep your GPA around a 3.5 (a couple I've heard of are as low as a 3, but I've also seen positions that required a 3.85 just to keep funding) and so this matters. Still, getting As means I did not screw up, and the A+? Well, that apparently reflects better than just not screwing up.
This matters a lot to me because I screwed up my undergrad so hard. I only managed to get my final GPA to like a 3.2 because my senior year I took thirteen classes in two semesters and averaged a 3.8 in them. (I'm converting to a 4.0 scale for convenience here; my undergrad had a 5.0 scale.) Other than that year, where I worked like a crazy person, my undergrad work was atrocious, and that combined with some other things has sometimes made me feel like a giant flake academically. This year marks four full years of graduate school --- three years in my MA program, and one year toward the PhD --- all of them while working full-time for a tech company. In all four of those years, I have never gotten a grade that was not an A, except for this A+; I feel like I have karmically purged my four years of undergrad. I did all of the work, I went to all of my classes, I took my education seriously, I feel like I genuinely understand a whole lot more as a result of this work even though I still have a long way to go. It feels really good. I am not a fuckup.
Now all I have to do is... around five more years of school, and then I'll have a PhD! yay
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Date: 2011-05-11 04:48 pm (UTC)5.0 system? What is this madness.
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Date: 2011-05-11 04:53 pm (UTC)Yeah, I dunno about the 5.0 system; my high school did it too, so it didn't seem weird at the time, although at my high school it was basically a way to make sure that you couldn't take certain classes if you wanted to have a high GPA and vice versa --- honors classes gave one more GPA point, and some classes didn't have an honors track at all. In retrospect what the hell.
At MIT it was just "A=5, B=4, C=3, D=2, F=0, don't fuck up!"
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Date: 2011-05-11 03:11 pm (UTC)Nine
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Date: 2011-05-11 03:26 pm (UTC)I messed up my first year BA and blew it big time on one of the second year courses. My dissertation was A but my degree a B.
I adored grad school and sailed thru my PhD while people around me with First Class BAs struggled. Some of it was maturity but most was about the more tortoise like demands of grad work
One big issue: it's made me a better teacher because I remember that awful sense of Not Getting It while working my socks off.
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Date: 2011-05-11 04:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-05-11 04:30 pm (UTC)I was for the most part an A student and a lot of my favorite students aren't A students. The students with not quite as good grades are more interesting as human beings.
(And then I wonder what this says about me as a human being.)
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Date: 2011-05-11 03:27 pm (UTC)(Also the A+ means you screwed up. It means you tried too hard in your classes; don't you have Real Work to do?)
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Date: 2011-05-11 04:05 pm (UTC)my sense is that if the classwork is not, and is incapable of becoming, interesting original research, then an A+ means you're probably trying too hard. if the classwork is, or can become, interesting original research, then an A+ is an endorsement of that research as promising.
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Date: 2011-05-11 04:15 pm (UTC)(Original research rarely comes out of math classwork. Unless I totally misunderstood how math grad school works, which is very possible.)
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Date: 2011-05-11 05:08 pm (UTC)I like your breakdown of what the different grades mean in grad school. It's interesting that IU does the A+ thing. It's no difference, points-wise, than an A, so to me it really just means something like "A and we want you to know that you're awesome" -- it's a good feeling to get one of those.
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Date: 2011-05-11 07:45 pm (UTC)It is definitely a good feeling! I think not all professors give them out, but apparently some do.
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Date: 2011-05-11 05:17 pm (UTC)I flubbed around, my first couple years of undergraduate, riding high on my high school accomplishments and sense of entitlement, thinking I didn't need to try to succeed. Well, I was wrong, and had to pull it together in the end, much like you did. Thankfully, graduate school has been better, and has given me a much-needed sense of humility.
Going off a thread I saw above: When I taught women's studies, my favourite students actually were my A students. I gave them an A because they participated, not necessarily because they answered every exam question perfectly.
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Date: 2011-05-11 06:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-05-11 09:52 pm (UTC)You are, in fact, quite good at grad-school. It is one of the things you are good at. And you work hard at it, and it pays off.
And you are awesome.
Just saying.
<3
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Date: 2011-05-11 10:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-05-12 04:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-05-12 05:43 pm (UTC)Heh, in my program, a 3.5 for a grad student gets you into the CS honors society (I am just barely below being able to qualify right now), and a 3.0 with at least Bs in "core" classes keeps you in good standing.
I wish my final undergrad GPA had been anything like a 3.2/4.0.
Congrats on the A+!
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Date: 2011-05-15 03:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-05-25 04:46 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-05-25 11:58 am (UTC)Plus I like both my job and my graduate studies, and don't really want to give either of them up. It is possible that one day I will wake up and say "WHAT WAS I THINKING" and want to stop doing one of them. I save money so that if that happens, I'll be able to choose between them, and not just have my hand completely forced. I'm hoping it doesn't happen though. :)